Week 7 Discussion Responses


Read these below responses for the question and provide a SHORT  answer- address each student as if you were talking to them directly and give them your opinion on their response to the question- three separate answers for these three students.   Example did you like what they said? DO you agree or disagree and three sentences why 



Topic 7 DQ 1

Music artists utilize language that degrades or puts down various groups in our society including women. Think about a current, popular song. What do the lyrics say about relationships, gender identities, love, and intimacy? Do you agree that the use of derogatory lyrics is free speech? Does the song use qualitative, textual, or rhetorical methods to portray their thoughts of various groups in society? Be sure to support your response with scholarly sources. 

 Dorothy Re: Topic 7 DQ 1

The Music artist that I have decided to go with is a song from an entirely different culture. The Music artist is Ammy Virk, Neeru Bajwa, Amberdeep Singh in lead roles It was good seeing a song that was not about video games, big cars, naked women, sexual contents. The song was a very relaxing song that makes you smile and appreciate the song and the culture of the characters in the song.

The lyrics are based on a relationship between a couple who has a love for each other and does not have much in their home, but love is more than material things. This Music lyric contains no derogatory lyrics because it is based on love. Even though I can not understand the language that is spoken in this video, you can read the facial expression.

This song artist uses textual methods to portray to a group of people in society. This music involves understanding languages, symbols, and pictures present to gain information on what the song is about. It also provides cues to ways through which the artists are using communication to get others to understand. “Therefore, multi-view text clustering presents a useful solution for trends detection by integrating various representations called ‘views’ to provide a complementary description of the same content. In this context, we propose a new ensemble method for multi-view text clustering that exploits different representations of text to produce more accurate and high-quality clustering” says, Maha, Hajkacem, & Essoussi. (2020). This movie is an Indian well known popular music but it has drawn attention to all different cultures around the world.

 Zackery Re: Topic 7 DQ 1

While I have a song from 1990, I would certainly not call that a current or popluar song. That being said, I do not really keep up with popular music at all because I have an older taste in music, personally. I do not really enjoy the current trends in music today. I enjoy most genres, but many of them have changed over the years. But one constant has been a hard focus of hardcore rap music discussing drugs, maltreatment (best description I can use) of women, and basically no cares in world about reprecussions for their actions. THe song I chose is by Vanilla Ice, Ride that train. The lyrics speak of a one night stand after a show.

While he is discusses the actions between the two participants, he focuses on all the things she does to him and that he can't physically handle the sexual "challenges", so to speak. While this may be more of a mistreatment of him, by the female character, he is still objectifying females. The female discussed can be construed as any "roadie" of his time, for lack of a better term. One of the things that Flynn discusses is that objectification is primarily researched in music videos, lyrics offer a unique and unexplored perspective on the topic. That is what we are basically discussing here.

While the song was never on main stream radio, in the subculture, albeit small, of Vanilla Ice fans, this was considered a decent song by the artist. Personally, I thought the beat to the song was ok, but once I truly listened to the lyrics, I was no longer a fan. 

This poses the real issue with some of these songs. I propose that many persons simply hear a beat and when they enjoy the beat, they listen to the song. Many fans don't really listen to the lyrics of a song at first. I know this is a huge assumption. But I think it holds a lot of weight. How many times do we hear a song and bob our head when it is a beat we like? We might listen to the shortly thereafter, but not always. I do not think there is always a freedom of speech issue. The artist have the right to make the music they want to make. The radio stations have regulations they have to abide by when they air the music. There are sometimes censored (or clean) versions of the same music that is also released for radio. The issue now is the accessibility through streaming means which do not have the same regulations that radio stations have. This is something to consider.

 Dwayne Re: Topic 7 DQ 1

I am a big country music fan but I know there are a lot of songs that are really negative or degrading towards women. I just heard a song on Pandora in the car yesterday that I used to listen to all the time but hearing it this time around again, I was shocked with the lyrics of the song. This song was Honky Tonk Badonkadonk by Trace Adkins and focuses on women’s physical appearance at a club and it is all about her bottom and how they love to watch them above all else:

“We don't care bout the drinkin'
Barely listen to the band
Our hands, they start a shakin'
When she gets the urge to dance
Drivin' everybody crazy
You think you fell in love
Boys, you better keep your distance
You can look but you can't touch
That honky tonk badonkadonk
Keepin' perfect rhythm
Make ya wanna swing along
Got it goin' on
Like Donkey Kong
And whoo-wee
Shut my mouth, slap your grandma
There outta be a law
Get the Sheriff on the phone
Lord have mercy, how's she even get them britches on
That honky tonk badonkadonk”

This song sees women not as relationship material but as a physical object to watch and enjoy. They don’t see these women as people with thoughts and feelings they are just there for men’s enjoyment. This is nothing new for the country music industry as a whole, especially in the more recent time periods. Between 2010 and 2014, country music songs were more like to focus on a woman’s appearance and treating women like objects than any other previous decade, especially with the recent trend in country music that has developed called “bro country” (Rasmussen & Rebecca, 2016). A reason for this may come from the fact that country music is extremely male-dominated with only 8% of Billboard charting singles being sung by woman (Rasmussen & Rebecca, 2016). While I don’t personally enjoy derogatory lyrics, I do think that they are covered under free speech. They can say and express their views in the lyrics no matter what they are and it is legally permissible. It may not be a good choice to do so more morally but legally they are perfectly able to do so and consumers can choose to listen to the lyrics or not.

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